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Old 01-12-2005, 05:55 AM
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Nathaniel Abraham

Killer, 19, is denied freedom

An Oakland County judge has ordered Michigan's youngest convicted killer to get a job, start community college and begin volunteering before he is released to the public in two years.

Nathaniel Abraham, who will turn 19 Wednesday, will remain in state custody until his 21st birthday, Oakland Probate Judge Eugene Arthur Moore ruled Tuesday at a hearing to assess Abraham's progress at the W.J. Maxey Training School where he is serving a sentence for second-degree murder .

Abraham recently earned his G.E.D. and continues individual and group therapy daily at Maxey.

But in the next 24 months, he must step up his progress, the judge said, including learning some life skills and getting a job and attending college.

"If you want to go to a halfway house by January (2006) you have to do this," Moore told Abraham in Oakland Circuit Court.

"You have matured and made a lot of progress. The question is: Have you made enough?"

Abraham was 11 years old when he fired a sniper shot from a hilltop in Pontiac, killing 18-year-old Ronnie Green outside a party store in 1997.

He was put in maximum-security detention at Maxey when he was 13.

In July, he was moved to a medium-security facility where he has worked toward completing a rehabilitation program.

Maxey social worker Harry Adams said Abraham is "without a doubt on target with his recovery tasks."

Assistant Oakland County Prosecutor Deborah Carley expressed concern about Abraham's ability to complete the rehabilitation program by next January when a Family Court psychologist recommends Abraham enter a halfway house .

"I think he needs to finish the program (at Maxey) and step up to the plate," Carley said.

Attorney Daniel Bagdade defended Abraham, saying the young man has made tremendous strides .

"Nate has promised me he will be at the upper levels next time, and he can do it in three months. His workers say it is possible," Bagdade said. "He wants to prove the naysayers wrong."

At the end of the hearing, Abraham told the judge he would get a job, volunteer and start community college.

Moore ordered the case back for review in 90 days, telling Maxey officials they needed to change their program to meet Abraham's needs and telling Abraham, "Nobody makes it in the community without a job."

Every nigger MUST go to college! The judge wants the people in charge of this ape to change their program to fit this nigger's needs. When this coon re-offends, I'll be right here rubbing this nasty nigger in your face judge.

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Old 01-12-2005, 12:59 PM
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Oh sure, this 'boon should earn a doctorate in Nig-nometry while he's at it!

What kind of bullsh*t is that, this nigger should attend college? Does his "experience" as a simian murderer qualify him for credits in social pathology? Is there a "maximum-security" community college this ape can attend in Oakland?

His miraculous, life-transforming "college experience" should consist of busting up rocks while being followed in the rifle scopes of white prison guards.
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Social Worker: Nathaniel Abraham Has Anger Issues
19-Year-Old Charged With First-Degree Murder As Child

POSTED: 1:52 pm EST February 25, 2005

PONTIAC, Mich. -- Convicted murderer Nathaniel Abraham is beginning to perform community service in public and focus on a career, but still has anger management problems, social workers testified Friday at a review hearing for the teenager who killed a man at age 11.

A jury found Nathaniel Abraham (pictured left, in 2004, and right, in older file photo) guilty of second-degree murder in 1997.

Abraham, 19, has been in juvenile detention since the 1997 shooting death of Ronnie Lee Greene. Convicted of second-degree murder as an adult but sentenced as a juvenile, Abraham will be freed from all state supervision in January 2007 when he turns 21.

Harry Adams, a social worker at the W.J. Maxey Boys Training School, testified Friday that Abraham has advanced to the next treatment level as he promised he would, but also is being punished for responding angrily to a hard foul during a recent basketball game. In response to the foul, Abraham mouthed off and a threatened a counselor.

Abraham's attorney called the incident a setback. But the prosecutor said it's a sign that Abraham may not be ready to handle the real world.

Since his conviction, Probate Judge Eugene Arthur Moore has held periodic review hearings to assess Abraham's status and progress. Officials have said they hope he will be ready to move to a halfway house next year, where he could spend his final months in custody.

But assistant prosecutor Deborah Carley said Friday she opposed the idea at this point. Another review was scheduled for April 25.

Abraham is interested in pursuing a cosmetology license and began his community service this month, speaking to a group of at-risk kids in Ann Arbor, Adams said.

Abraham was the first child charged with first-degree murder to be prosecuted under a 1997 Michigan law allowing adult prosecutions of children of any age in serious felony cases. Abraham has denied shooting at Greene intentionally.
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Old 03-05-2005, 05:51 AM
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Nathaniel Abraham, 13, is escorted from his murder trial in Pontiac on Nov. 9, 1999.

Now 19, Nathaniel Abraham, left, looks back at his family as he stands with his attorney Daniel Bagdade on Jan. 11 in a courtroom in Pontiac.

It's been seven years of 'tough love' for one of nation's youngest convicted killers

PONTIAC -- In the seven years since Nathaniel Abraham was locked up at age 11 for murder, he's dreamed of becoming a professional basketball player, entertainer, carpenter, lawyer, barber and inspirational speaker who steers kids from crime.

When Abraham appears in court, Judge Eugene Arthur Moore listens to his plans and troubles, nodding, looking him in the eye and interrupting with questions. How? Why? What do you need? And perhaps most often: Who's the only person who can get you there?

Now 19, Abraham still sometimes stares down at the table in front of him and mumbles confused teenage answers. But often he holds his head up, meets the judge's gaze, and answers succinctly. He recently told Moore that he plans to get out of detention, avoid his old neighborhood, go to college and start a business.

"I also want to make you proud and thank you for taking a chance on me," he said.

Since 1997 Moore and Abraham, one of the country's youngest convicted killers, have sat feet apart, exchanging frowns and apologies, promises, ultimatums, encouragement and the occasional spontaneous laugh.

Their relationship has been a strange kind of periodic parenting for Abraham, a virtually fatherless teenager now in the home stretch of his incarceration for murder.

Moore, who has presided over juvenile court in suburban Detroit for more than three decades, hopes years of rehab and training at Michigan's juvenile facilities are readying Abraham for the adult world he'll enter in less than two years.

Some of what Abraham has been learning is basic: how to balance a checkbook, read a bus schedule, behave in a job interview. Other skills require more finesse: controlling his anger, walking away from bad situations, holding down a job.

"One thing that can be said is that the system did not fail him," prosecutor Deborah Carley said. "This court has done everything I've ever seen a court do."

Abraham's mother, Gloria, and his lawyer say Moore has been a "godsend," dishing the strong-willed teenager a consistent dose of tough love.

Over and over, Moore has ordered Abraham to take responsibility for himself. And he demands that the detention center, W.J. Maxey Boys Training School, teach and discipline the teenager and exorcise his self-pity.

"He's continually kept the hammer over Nate, never let up on him, never let up on telling him his responsibility to himself and to society. And Nate has responded," defense attorney Daniel Bagdade said. "He respects Judge Moore and he listens very carefully."

Abraham, whose broad shoulders don't quite fill out the navy blue blazer he wears to court, will receive his high school diploma in June. Moore wants him in classes at Washtenaw Community College, and Abraham says he's interested in cosmetology, which he's learned by helping with barber duties at the detention home.

When the judge ordered community service, Abraham started speaking to groups of at-risk kids about th
e perils of crime. He tells them that when you're sent away, you don't get to wear Nikes.

But social workers and the prosecutor are concerned that Abraham still has serious problems controlling his temper. Most recently, he was punished for mouthing off and threatening one of his counselors after being fouled during a basketball game.

They hope more anger management training and increased socialization with the outside world will help him prepare to live on his own. He'll be free of all state supervision on his 21st birthday, in January 2007.

When Abraham was arrested after killing 18-year-old Ronnie Greene Jr. in October 1997 outside a convenience store in this gritty city 30 miles north of Detroit, he stood 4 feet 9 inches tall and weighed 65 pounds. Sitting in the defense chair, his 11-year-old feet couldn't reach the ground.

Prosecutors argued that he had hidden the rifle, told people he intended to kill, and been worried about
gangs coming after him. He had had run-ins with the system before, authorities said, after pulling a gun on fellow elementary school students, beating a boy with a pipe, and getting involved in arson and burglary. But he was never prosecuted.

The defense argued that the shooting was accidental, that Abraham was aiming at trees, not Greene's head.

In the end, jurors convicted him of second-degree murder, making him the youngest person in Michigan to be convicted of murder as an adult, and one of the youngest in the country.

His also was the first murder case brought under a new state law that gave prosecutors unilateral power to decide whether to try someone as an adult -- previously a judge's decision. A rise in juvenile crime during the mid-1990s had prompted lawmakers nationwide to enact measures making it easier to try and punish juveniles as adults.

Moore faced three options in sentencing Abraham: He could send him to juvenile facilities until his 21st birthday, when he would automatically be released. He could send him to adult prison. Or he could combine the two: juvenile hall until age 21 with the possibility of adult prison afterward.

He stuck with the juvenile system.

The 69-year-old judge believes in it deeply and wants to make it work. His father was a juvenile court judge whose portrait hangs in Moore's courtroom, and he thinks the "vast majority" of children can be rehabilitated. He handles about 50 kids' cases at a time, though few last as long as Abraham's.

"If we can't change a kid's behavior in 8 or 9 years, then maybe the juvenile system needs to take a good look at itself and what we're doing wrong," Moore said in a recent interview.

Like many juvenile judges, Moore meets with his delinquents at least every six months until their time is up, and typically uses a parental relationship as a model.

"There's an old doctrine that the juvenile judge is supposed to provide for the youngster what the child should have gotten in its own home," Moore said. "I think most judges still believe that they have this responsibility."

Moore is blunt. He discards, even disparages, the social-worker language in the review reports brought to him, and demands that case workers translate phrases like "cognitive distortion" into clear English.

Frustrated that he wasn't getting a complete picture of Abraham's successes and failures, he recently took the unusual step of appointing a guardian ad litum to investigate and give him the undiluted facts.

In court with Abraham, Moore sometimes interrupts conversations to ask the teenager if he understands what's going on. Or he'll suddenly order him to regurgitate a complicated set of instructions. Abraham can do it.

"This case is really the ultimate test for a judge, to work with a kid for a long time and pull the kid through the sys
tem," Bagdade said. "In this particular relationship, it's probably come closer to some kind of a parental influence than in most of them."

Moore traces his outlook to his father and his grandfather, a Methodist minister, who both believed in squeezing out bad behavior by accentuating the positive.

"Most of us in life make it because we had somebody --whether it's a parent, if we're lucky, or a sibling, or a teacher or a coach or a piano teacher -- that we believe cared about us. If we think that people care about us, then we begin to care about ourselves," he said.

Social workers say Abraham has expressed remorse for his crime, and he has apologized publicly in court.

Though she's concerned about his temper problems, Robin Adams, Ronnie Greene's mother, has forgiven him.

Her family has attended many of Abraham's court hearings over the years, and it's been hard for her to watch h
im grow up when her own son never got that chance. Greene would be 27 if he were still alive, Adams said.

But she says once she realized she had forgiven Abraham, she was able to pray that he gets his life together, to "be saved, be close to God, take responsibility and be a man."

"I want him to grow up to be everything he can," she said in an interview.

Abraham seems to think he's done fine.

"I don't think the average 11-year-old would have handled it as well as I have ... Not to be arrogant in no shape or form, but I just don't see it," he told Moore.

And lately, he's been thanking the judge a lot.

"I guess I never really looked at it as you being in my corner one-hundred percent, you wanting to see me become the best person I can," he told Moore at February's review hearing. "Now that I'm older ... I can see that."

"You don't need to thank me" Moore responded. "We need to keep you on the road you're on ... then you can thank yourself."

Moore noted that each decision any judge makes is a risk. But in private he agreed that he took a big chance at a time when states were cracking down on juvenile crime.

"Not just for the judge and not just for the kid," he said. "For the system, for everyone involved in the system. Because if it doesn't work, then you've just given fuel to the people who said from the beginning that it wouldn't work."


...Moore is blunt. He discards, even disparages, the social-worker language in the review reports brought to him, and demands that case workers translate phrases like "cognitive distortion" into clear English.

Frustrated that he wasn't getting a complete picture of Abraham's successes and failures, he recently took the unusual step of appointing a guardian ad litum to investigate and give him the undiluted facts. ...
This stupid judge thinks he has the right to ask somebody to speak in plain English.

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Old 07-26-2005, 06:06 AM
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Rehabilitated or not, young killer will go free

The voice has deepened and shoulders have filled out. He recently received his high school diploma and sometimes leaves the juvenile detention facility that virtually raised him.

Nathaniel Abraham no longer is the wisp of an 11-year-old who coldly shot a Pontiac stranger in the head, becoming one of the youngest murderers in U.S. history.

Charged as an adult but sentenced as a youth, he is, at 19, all grown up. But has he changed? He has come far emotionally and intellectually, writing poetry and tutoring other residents, say counselors at W.J. Maxey Training School. But he continues to fight with guards and won't admit when he is wrong.

Rehabilitated or not, he will be released from the juvenile detention facility in 17 months, and his subsequent success or failure could affect the juvenile justice system by influencing the sentencing of other violent youths, observers said.

Abraham was Exhibit A in the need to get tough with juvenile criminals by trying them as adults. But the mood has swung the other way, with legal advocates counseling leniency and rehabilitation.

"If he's successful after he gets out, I think people can come back -- whether it's the media or court system -- and say that the system works," said Dan Bagdade, his defense attorney.

If a decade of detention can't straighten out Abraham, some judges may wonder whether there's any point to it and be less inclined to send young felons there, juvenile experts said.

It's one more responsibility for the fledgling adult to bear.

"This was a high-profile case," said Harold Timberlake, a youth residential director at Maxey. "You just never know which ways it's going to go."

Last month, 61 residents of Maxey received their GED or high school diplomas during a ceremony inside the chapel of the facility.

Wearing green or black caps and gowns, the young felons were watched by family members and security guards as they climbed the altar to take certificates from "Willard J. Maxey High School."

Even as the lanky Abraham celebrated afterward with chicken and soda, he was thinking about an even bigger commencement, his release in January 2007, said his mother, Gloria Abraham.

He hopes to move to a halfway house before then and has already begun venturing from Maxey to perform community service and talk to youngsters about the vicissitudes of crime.

"He tells them: 'When you have freedom, don't mess it up,'" Gloria Abraham said.

Nate Abraham looks for any excuse to slip away from the facility for a few hours. By the time he's released, he will have spent nearly half of his 21 years at Maxey in Green Oak Township. It's the longest stint at the facility, where the average stay is three years.

The second half of Abraham's life has been nothing like the first, according to court files and interviews with family and counselors. Bagdade declined an interview request for his client.

With a father who abandoned the family and a mother who worked nights, Abraham did whatever he wanted, a 9-year-old who often stayed out past midnight.

At Maxey, however, all he knows is control.

From waking at 6 a.m. to lights out at 9 p.m., Abraham is told when he can eat, when he can brush his teeth, when he can move.

Warning signs

When Abraham leaves Maxey, both he and the juvenile justice system will be searching for redemption.

For this is the second time the justice system has had a chance to help him.

The first occurred shortly before the murder in 1997. At the time, his life had already been spiraling out of control for years.

He first smoked pot when he was 6 and began drinking at 10, according to court records.

He also turned violent by 10, threatening to shoot a student on a school bus and shooting his sister and aunt with a BB gun after they had tried to hide it from him.

His mother sought help from the police, who sent her to juvenile court. Juvenile court referred her to the police.

"He is a boy who has been neglected by his home, our community and our justice system," Oakland County Probate Judge Eugene Arthur Moore said while sentencing Abraham.

"He represents our collective failings."

With no limits on Abraham's behavior, it became even more extreme.

In the week leading to the murder, he was suspected of a theft, a home invasion and beating two teens with a metal pipe, according to police reports.

Finally, on Oct. 29, Abraham was walking home from a friend's home where, earlier in the day, he fired a stolen .22-caliber rifle at a neighbor but missed.

At 10:30 p.m., he spied three men leaving the Sunset Party Shoppe after they bought two 40-ounce bottles of beer, according to trial testimony.

Abraham, who was standing 200 feet away on the other side of a clump of trees, raised the Remington semiautomatic with a missing stock and magazine and shot Ronnie Greene Jr. in the forehead.

The two had never met. Abraham's attorney said during the trial that he was shooting at the trees but, during subsequent counseling sessions at Maxey, the youth admitted that he shot at the men for kicks.

When Abraham was arrested two days later in his sixth-grade classroom, his face was painted red for Halloween.

Making strides

Abraham has come a long way from his days as a 65-pound killer.

During his trial, he was described as antisocial and mildly retarded.

At Maxey, however, he recently began taking college courses and helps tutor other residents, counselors said.

He has written and hopes to publish two books, one of poetry and one about his life.

He also has become more out going, counselors said. He talks more about his problems and what he needs to do to solve them.

"He's evidencing more effort, showing more interest," said Elaine Rosati, a social worker and lawyer who is Abraham's legal guardian.

"He's doing everything he's supposed to be doing."

Despite his progress, Abraham is described by other counselors as headstrong, defensive, combative and moody.

He questions or refuses to follow guards' orders, they said. When he does something wrong, he blames others.

Maxey wants him to move through five levels of development, but he remains stuck in stage two, where he reviews what got him into trouble and sets goals to avoid such negative behavior.

At a court hearing to gauge his progress in April, he blamed Maxey staff for two incidents where he disobeyed and argued with them.

"I have emotions like everyone else," he said. "At times, people still judge me for what I was then."

Deborah Carley, chief deputy prosecutor for Oakland Co
unty, is worried by what she sees as a pattern of Abraham failing to take responsibility for his actions.

If he bucks authority over minor matters in a setting where the consequences are immediate, she asked, what will he do when someone upsets him in the real world?

"We're not talking about an 11-year-old anymore," she said. "It's time for him to step up and make a life-altering choice. If he doesn't, it's squarely on his shoulders."

Moore, who sentenced Abraham, has become a stern mentor. During review hearings, he gives advice to the teen and quizzes him about what he's learned.

Now, he says, the rest is up to the youth.

"If he stumbles, that's his decision," Moore said in a recent interview. "Only you can decide whether you're successful or not."

"He is a boy who has been neglected by his home, our community and our justice system," Oakland County Probate Judge Eugene Arthur Moore said while sentencing Abraham.

"He represents our collective failings."
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I give this young boon about 4 weeks outside prison before it's TNB dominated evil nature takes over and it rapes or kills or carjacks. What a waste of a G.E.D.!!


"I cant waits to gets out of nigger heaven so Ize can rape, kill, carjack,and really puts my GED to good use!! "
The only contribution the nigger brings to white society is misery and chaos!!!!
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I don't care who he is or what "progress" this n-gger trash has made. He's a cold-blooded killer, and he's responsible for his actions. What a disgusting piece of jouralism this article is. Responsibiliy comes from taking responsibility for your actions.

The only real "progress" for this monkey would be for him to pay the price for the life he took.

Now...not only is he going to go out free...but he's going to probably be living on a government cheese for the rest of his worthless life...courtesy of us white taxpayers.

This is an unforgivable insult to Ronnie Green's family and a disgrace to justice in this country.
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With 14 months left until his release to the public, one of Michigan's youngest convicted killers is not rehabilitated enough to be transferred to a halfway house, a judge ruled Monday.

Nathaniel Abraham, 19, continues to resist authority figures and struggle with anger, and lacks empathy for others, according to social worker Harry Adams, who works with Abraham at the W.J. Maxey Boys Training School.

Abraham, who is in state custody until his 21st birthday in January 2007, is serving a sentence at Maxey for second-degree murder.

He was 11 years old in 1997 when he fired a sniper shot from a hilltop in Pontiac, killing 18-year-old Ronnie Green outside a party store.

Abraham was put in maximum-security detention at Maxey when he was 13.

In 2004 he was moved to a medium-security facility at Maxey, where he has worked toward completing a rehabilitation program.

Abraham has "reached an impasse" in his rehabilitation efforts, Adams told Oakland Probate Judge Eugene Moore.

Abraham was accused of having a sexual relationship with a 34-year-old social worker at Maxey. He denied the relationship.

Adams asked the judge to send Abraham to the Woodland West Special Needs Transition Center, where the 19-year-old can build his social skills and experience "real-world" situations such as ordering food in a restaurant, washing his own clothes at a laundromat and obtaining a state identification card.

Adams said Abraham "expresses frustration to the point that he wants to smash things so he won't hit someone."

He has been diagnosed with a severe personality disorder.
Oakland Assistant Prosecutor Deborah Carley said Abraham needs to stay locked up until he is 21.

"He is the longest-running resident they have at Maxey, and he still isn't rehabilitated," Carley said.

"We've given all the therapy and anger management we can, and we're still talking about the same problems."

In January, Moore said he would like to see Abraham moved to a halfway house by January 2006, when he has one year left under state supervision.

But, Moore said, until Abraham improves his behavior, he will have to remain at Maxey.

The judge did approve supervised visits with an aunt and uncle who live in Jackson, supervised visits to halfway houses and work at the Woodland transition center.
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With 14 months left until his release to the public, one of Michigan's youngest convicted killers is not rehabilitated enough to be transferred to a halfway house, a judge ruled Monday.
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Mich. Frees Negro Murderer Convicted As Boy - to kill again

Nathaniel Abraham

PONTIAC, Mich. -- A convicted murderer who was just 11 when he shot a man with a rifle was released from state supervision Thursday, a day before his 21st birthday.

Nathaniel Abraham was the first person charged with murder to be prosecuted under a 1997 state law that allowed children of any age to be prosecuted as an adult in a serious felony case.

Though convicted as an adult, Abraham was sentenced to juvenile detention with the expectation that he would be released when he turned 21.

More than nine years later as he stood before Oakland County Probate Judge Eugene Moore for his final status hearing, Abraham bore little resemblance to the scared boy whose feet couldn't touch the ground while he sat at the defense table during his 1999 murder trial.

"Show us all that you have become a caring, productive member of society," the judge said in granting Abraham's release.
Abraham has been living in a halfway house in Bay City, 70 miles north of his family in Pontiac.

His attorney, Daniel Bagdade, said Abraham has an apartment in Bay City, where he plans to work in maintenance for a manufacturing company and attend classes at Delta College.

"I'm going to make the best of it," Abraham told the judge.

Abraham was convicted of second-degree murder in the 1997 death of 18-year-old Ronnie Lee Greene.

Prosecutors at the time said Abraham had hidden the rifle, told people he intended to kill and voiced worry about gangs coming after him. The defense argued the shooting was accidental and that he was aiming at trees and not at Greene.
Abraham's release follows years in a maximum-security facility and a short stay at a medium-security camp.
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